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[Lamorna Nightingale – Flautist]

[Alex Manton – Educator]

Lamorna Nightingale

Hi my name is Lamorna Nightingale

Alex Manton

and I’m Alex Manton.

Lamorna Nightingale

Other voices is a performance recording and an education project, based on three new electroacoustic works for flute and electronics by Australian composer educators, Cat Hope, Tristan Coelho, and Fiona Hill. It provides access points for young composers, performance, and their teachers to explore the potential for combining electronic music with instruments and voice.

Alex Manton

This education kit provides detailed lesson plans and resource materials for stages four, five and six, including music one and music two. The activities in the kit draw together the key learning areas of composition, musicology, performance, and oral skills. The content utilises a range of musical genres from pop to arts music to assist the students in their understanding of the electronic genre and to provide a stepping stone into the art music of today.

Lamorna Nightingale

There is much to be explored through this music, including extended flute and vocal technique, creating soundscapes, graphic score interpretation, and basic computer electronic skills for exploring techniques such as delay, reverb, EQ, looping and effects. All technological components within the kit come with the videos with step-by-step instructions on how to use them and how to best implement the technology within the classroom for teaching and learning purposes.

Alex Manton

We hope that you enjoy exploring what the electronic genre has to offer and that it assists you in how to effectively teach this is exciting and engaging style of music to your students.

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Alex Manton

Hi I’m Alex Manton and I am here today with composer Fiona Hill, flautist Lamorna Nightingale, and soprano Jane Sheldon, and we’re going to have a discussion about the Other Voices kit. So, firstly, what was the inspiration behind this kick, Lamorna?

Lamorna Nightingale, Flautist

My inspiration was really Fiona approaching me, wanting to write a piece for fleets and electronics. And I was quite excited by the idea because I hadn’t done very much with electronics. And I was like, oh, this is a good opportunity to learn how to play with all the microphones and get some great sounds. And then I thought it would be also really Great to share that knowledge with the broader community, with other flute teachers and we classroom teachers, and of course students because if I didn’t know very much about it, then probably there up other people out there that didn’t know that much about it either.

Alex Manton

Fiona, why did you choose to work with electronics?

Fiona Hill, Composer

Electronics is a medium that I’m really drunk too, especially because I feel like it opens up a whole new layer of sound that you can explore as our composer, especially when you’re combining live instruments with electronics.

Alex Manton

Excellent. As a performer or composer, what are the biggest challenges in working with electronics? Jane, would you like to start?

Jane Sheldon, Soprano

Well, I personally don’t have a lot of expertise actually with electronic processing all with their technologies despite having performed a fair bit of music using that medium. And the reason I’ve gotten away with that is by having experts like Fiona, who really do understand how it works to make sure it all not just that it runs right when you’re performing it, but also that element of the piece is constructed in a really fine-grained way that takes into consideration the fact that there are acoustic sounds in the same environment.

Alex Manton

Excellent. Lamorna, what are your challenges in working with electronics as a flute player?

Lamorna Nightingale

Well, even just the basic stuff, like knowing how to work as an amplified Instrument are quite a challenge, I think, like knowing how to set up a speaker system, where to put a microphone to make it actually work as a flute player, how to balance levels. All the really basic stuff I think is quite a challenge. And then, when you have the added element of making some quite complicated music. Yeah. It’s quite an interesting challenge. Yeah.

Alex Manton

Fiona, challenges for you?

Fiona Hill

I think as our composer you’re always trying to imagine how everything’s going to sound while you’re writing the piece, so really trying to imagine the acoustic instruments and their electronics and how you want to meld them together. So for me, I love exploring the option of amplifying the instruments and the processing those instruments to really help blend electronics and the acoustic instruments. And of course, the other challenge is also how playable is it. Is there performer going to be able to interact and still feel comfortable as a performer while they’re performing with electronics.

Alex Manton

Can you describe the relationship between the performer and electronics and performing the piece? You kind of did in a way then.

Fiona Hill

Sure. In my piece, in particular, I think well, the backing track I formed by using the instruments. I recorded baked Jane and Lamorna singing, playing, speaking, and that really formed the bed of the backing track. And that really then helped me to meld the other instruments in when he came to writing the live part of the piece. So I think that really kind of helped to meld it.

Alex Manton

And Lamorna, your relationship with the electronics?

Lamorna Nightingale

Well, I mean, playing Fiona’s piece is quite interesting as the set backing track. And because of that, it’s really important to stick with the timing of that track so we decided that the only way to actually do that successfully was to have a timer and to put the timer on your music stand and to be following the timer along with the music at the same time with the printed music. And of course, making chamber music together. So that’s quite a big challenge in Fiona’s piece. In Tristan’s piece, more of the day challenge is kind of hearing myself playing and then hearing my own process to sound kind of coming back at me. So it feels a bit different. It’s a bit like playing a duo, really, with myself.

Alex Manton

And Jane, do you have anything to add to that? The relationship between yourself and that electronics as you’re performing.

Jane Sheldon

It’s interesting. Depending on what the other electronics do, I can be very, very aware of them or I can just trust what’s going on as this layer on top of the beach we’re performing. Sometimes it feels very interactive and other times it feels like something going on concurrently, and I’m sure both of those feelings up all by design.

Alex Manton

What was the process of collaboration between their performer and composer in helping that piece come to fruition?

Fiona Hill

Well, for me as a composer, it was really drawing on the expertise of these amazing performers because they can tell me so much about their instruments that as a composer I don’t know. So we did a lot of workshopping with instruments and especially with the extended techniques, working out is this possible, what’s the best sounds, what is either really cool sounds that you can make that I can put in my piece. Say to me, that process was really integral to writing the piece.

Alex Manton

And its performers, anything to add to that?

Lamorna Nightingale

Well, I mean, it’s just so exciting to be working with living composers and actually having any sense of collaboration at all because as classical performers we are often playing the music of dead composers. And if you have a question, there’s no one to ask. But when you’re working with Fiona or Tristan or with Kat, then if there’s a question, I can ask them and we can work together to get the best result rather than it being this kind of fixed thing. So yeah.

Alex Manton

And lastly, do you have any tips for young composers or performers who wish to explore writing or performing electronic works? Jane, as a vocalist, any tips?

Jane Sheldon

I think in putting a work together, rehearsing it, and preparing it, give yourself the time to ensure that someone in the room has really mastered the operation of The technology because, you know, if you were to think, I’m sure I can sort of work out how to do this and rush that process, when something goes arwy with an electronics in performance live, firstly, that’s not good in the first place, but secondly, you need someone in the room you can fix it. So I would say the biggest piece of advice I would give is make sure that there’s someone there who is an expert he can either take care of that element entirely themselves or can give you really, really thorough instruction.

Lamorna Nightingale

And I would just add to that, be curious and enjoy the process of experimenting and having fine with it because working with electronics is actually really, really fun because you can do you such amazing things to your own sound in a way that you can’t do in a natural kind of environment. So yeah, just be curious and enjoy.

Alex Manton

Fiona, for the composers?

Fiona Hill

Yeah. I follow on from what, well, both Lamorna and Jane was saying really, that have fun, explore, listen really widely, listen. There’s so much electronic music out there, listen to as much as you can. And then find out how to do it yourself. And there’s so much technical information and things that it is really important to know, but it’s also about exploring. Say it’s getting that balance right are really opening your ears to the possibilities and discovering your own possibilities, and then knowing your equipment and your software and very technical requirements, but then also knowing the instruments and what the instruments are capable of.

Alex Manton

Great. Thanks everybody for your time today, and congratulations once again on the other voices kit.

Jane Sheldon

Thank you.

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